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The Pamela Geller interview Mediaite Wouldn’t Run

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Published on: June 12, 2015

This is one for the books. I am used to egregious media malpractice, but this hits a new low. Michael J. Turk of Mediaite did an interview with me — here is the exchange below. What follows is what Mediaite actually ran. They redacted 90% of it. They are worse than Pravda in its heyday.

Mediaite: 1) One thing that I feel you and I share is an inner ‘media bug;’ this force inside that draws us to the front lines of history, both as observers, and as people compelled to make a difference in the outcome of what we’re witnessing unfold. Let’s go back to a young Pamela growing up on Long Island (coincidentally, not very far in time or place from my dad, born in 1958 and raised in Valley Stream).
Ø When did you first realize that media, that communicating to others in regard to the major events of the day, was a part of the fabric of Pam’s being?

Geller: I never chose this work. It chose me. After 9/11, I realized that freedom is not free, that it cannot be assumed. I began to study about who had attacked my country, and why. Then I began to speak out.

2) I don’t think that I’m the only young person out there who wonders, on an almost daily basis, whether or not putting in all that time and money for that degree (or degrees) was really worth it. Your story takes an interesting turn at the ‘college stage.’
Ø Was journalism/communications your major interest at Hofstra?

Geller: No. Languages. I am fluent in Spanish and bits and pieces of the romantic languages.

Ø Were there any issues you found yourself particularly drawn to on campus, and during those years?

Geller: I was loving life. I was young, happy and curious. I was as passionately interested in justice and what’s right then as I am now. I did not, however, get involved in campus political activities. I was bored in college, and much more interested in the business world. I had worked almost full time since my mid-teens and that was where the action was. My high school was on split session so I would get out at noon and work long hours. I continued to do that in college. College coursework was out of touch with the real world. The business world was infinitely more educational. I wasn’t studying to be a doctor or a lawyer so much of the required curriculum was a lot of nonsense and indoctrination, Useless, really.

Ø Was your decision not to reenroll based upon a feeling of restriction with the environment on campus, i.e. that you weren’t seeing how your time there was going to translate into your larger goals? Were the concerns more economic, or personal to events in your life at the time?

Geller: My life was going in a different direction.

Ø When looking at how far you’ve gotten without that diploma, it can’t be too hard to find reasons why you don’t regret the decision to continue at Hofstra. Can you think of any reason why you do now regret it?

Geller: No. Universities are largely centers of leftist indoctrination today. I don’t regret not going through that. It was holding me back. The real world was infinitely more interesting.

3) The media/history/culture nerd in me thinks about you, as a young Jewish women, behind the scenes at the Daily News and The Observer in the ’80s and early ’90s, kicking ass, taking names, and forging ahead in an environment where, at least on a superficial basis, it seems pretty safe to bet on you being a ‘minority.’ Okay. Maybe my status as a gay, Jewish Republican guy who likes to fight back and challenge conventional wisdom (which these days means challenging many of the politically correct notions of the left, and challenging those apologizing for political Islam) is informing, and romanticizing, my opinion here.
Ø Am I that far off, when it comes to your time at the Daily News and The Observer, imagining this brash young women taking on the establishment?

Geller: I was always fiercely independent. I enjoyed the fight. As for the antisemitism I experienced. It was subtle and rare. But with the ascent of the left in the past two decades, antisemitism is much more pervasive. It’s back with a vengeance. That was not the case 25 or even 15 years ago.

Ø I saw in a New York Times piece from a few years ago that, back in the early ’90s, you pushed The Observer’s editors to endorse Rudy for mayor, but were “satisfied” when the paper didn’t issue an endorsement at all. Is this an inside peek at the pragmatic side to Pam[ela] Geller, not the extreme, all-or-nothing polemic you’re so often portrayed as being by the mainstream media? Can you see yourself accepting this sort of compromise today?

Geller: I can’t generalize on such things. Every circumstance is different. Ayn Rand said, in any compromise between good and evil, evil profits. And we see that today. So you pick your fights.

Ø You now are the entrepreneur behind your own growing collection of media, including a blog I’ve followed for years, Atlas Shrugs. Nevertheless, you’re still on the big cable and broadcast networks enough to get a sense of how things are behind the camera at this point in time. How does it compare to the media environment of a few decades ago? Is more the same than is different, when it comes to your comfort level in that arena?

Geller: There is no comparison. Now I am a media target. Every time I am onscreen, I am on guard, as the interviewer is trying to trap me and show me in a negative light. Obviously this was not the case in the 1990s.
The media was less brazen a few decades ago. They tried to mask their bias. Today, the mask is off. The media is an activist organization zealous in their pursuit of an anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-individual agenda.

4) On 9/11, we were at pretty different stages in our lives. I was a freshman in high school, the oldest of four kids. Nevertheless, the events of that day seem to have informed and shaped our world view in a similar way.
Ø I’m pretty sure I’m not the first one to ask you this, but, here it is: where were you on that warm, sunny day in September?

Geller: On a dock in Long Island, watching the towers burn.

Ø By nightfall, when the perpetrators’ identities were essentially well-known, what were your thoughts? Had you seen an attack like this, motivated by radical Islam, coming?

Geller: I didn’t know who the perpetrators were or what motivated them, and I felt that omission keenly. I wanted to know who had attacked my country. I began to read and study in order to find out.

Ø What was it about 9/11, and the threat it highlighted, that caused your ‘political awakening?’ Caused the issue of violent Islamic supremacism to be your, well, cause in life?

Geller: I had always taken my freedom for granted. I never contemplated losing it. I had always assumed my freedom. I never imagined a force dedicated to taking it away. I am determined that force will not prevail.

5) Lindsey Graham made some comments to a CNN reporter in Iowa over the weekend. He said, “In the eyes of radical Islam, they hate you as much as they hate Caitlyn Jenner. They hate us all because we won’t agree to their view of religion. So America, we are all in this together.” The refreshing thing about this exchange was how effectively Graham was able to get across the idea that, no matter what ‘kind’ of an American you are, fighting radical Islam should be a common-sense, universally agreed to notion.
Ø Listening to this, I thought about some of the exchanges you’ve had with media personalities in the very recent past, after the events in Garland, Texas. A common theme among all the ‘non-FNC’ hosts is their treating of you as the extremist, as the one putting forth these supposedly polemic notions. Do you see any value in Graham’s somewhat gentler approach? Do you even really view your approach as being on the extreme side, or do you feel like you’ve fallen down the rabbit hole when dealing with members of the mainstream media?

Geller: I don’t agree with Graham on much, but his point was sound in this. I am working in defense of freedom; if the media thinks that is “extreme,” it reflects poorly on them, not on me. The media has for the most part lost all perspective and all understanding of the value and importance of free speech.

Extreme is a measure. Is pursuit of the truth in the extreme a bad thing? Is pursuit of justice in the extreme a bad thing?

What we are witnessing is the hatred of the good for being the good.

Ø I’ve wondered if the media doesn’t want to portray you as some sort of wickedly racist witch, doesn’t want to see you be as bombastic as possible. Is it likely that there are some sexist aspects of the way the media treats you, perhaps akin to the treatment of someone like Sarah Palin?

Geller: Certainly there are. Yet it must be said that they are little better with my male colleagues who share my views.

Islam is not a race.

Ø How do you manage to stay so level-headed in these exchanges? Is it, ultimately, from a core belief in your convictions?

Geller: Yes. It is easy to stay level-headed when I know I speak the truth and stand for the truth.

6) Not that you should even need to, in an ideal world, but what are some of the things that people would be surprised to hear about Pam[ela] Geller? That (devil’s advocate alert) crazy right-wing lady who, instead of hoarding cats, taunts Muslims with her cartoons and billboards. It’s unfortunate you even need to play this ‘how often do you beat your wife’ game, disproving something that it’s ridiculous you’re accused of to begin with, but here we are.
Ø What are some things that media executives and their spouses would be shocked to hear someone point out about Pam Geller when your name is brought up at a cocktail party in Georgetown or on the UES?

Geller: That I help Muslim girls get to safe-houses because they wish to lead free lives or that my first activist initiative was raising funds for a headstone for a Aqsa Parvez, a Canadian Muslima teen who was honor killed by her family.

Ø Things that blatantly disprove their adulterated narrative about you? Your position on a certain hot-button issue, organizations you’ve worked with, friends or confidantes you have, that would confound the cable news anchor seeking to spin you as an extremist?

Geller: I am liberal on social issues.

7) Just yesterday, we saw the Supreme Court rule on the issue of a law congress passed allowing those born in Jerusalem, Israel to have it printed on their passports that they were born in Jerusalem, well, Israel. All the legal reasoning aside, the Justices are smart people, and they knew what they were ruling on. Three of the six majority Justices who denied Israelis their right to have that fact reflected on their U.S. passport (so, a full half of those so voting) are Jews. So, too, are many of the harshest media critics of Israel. As someone who has done work with Jewish organizations in the past [I was glad to see that ADL expressed disappointment with yesterday’s decision], it seems as good a time as ever to ask you:
Ø To the extent that much of your treatment in the media is happening at the hands of fellow Jews, how do you deal with this? From where do you think it comes? Does it ever hurt you, personally, that the people and the State you are on the front lines battling for seem to show you what borders on disdain?

Geller: The Jews have always suffered from kapos, trimmers, quislings, compromisers within our ranks. Their opposition does not phase me. I know I stand with the proud Jews whom their cowardly spiritual ancestors opposed as well.
Leftwing Jews worship at the church of human secularism. Their politics are their religion.

Jewish history is rife with traitors like…… Dathan and his golden calf. We have plenty of Dathans demanding we worship some golden calf.

Now look at what the misanthropes at Mediate ran:


Pamela Geller Is a ‘Social Liberal,’ Agrees with Lindsey Graham on One Point

by Mike Turk | Mediaite, 1:08 pm, June 11th, 2015

As a newly-minted GOP presidential candidate, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) caused some controversy in Iowa over the weekend via his interview with CNN’s Dana Bash. Asked for his thoughts on Caitlyn Jenner‘s coming out (both in terms of gender and political affiliation), Graham welcomed her into his “big tent” vision of the Republican Party, united on all fronts in fighting Islamic jihad abroad. On this point, it turns out Graham has an ally that might surprise the media: Pamela Geller.

Of course, much of Graham’s campaign is based on an unabashed belief in the power of a strong American military defeating the threat posed by radical Islamists — something on which Geller unequivocally agrees. Going further, however, Graham took the position that his philosophy is one Jenner could fully support, telling CNN, “[I]n the eyes of radical Islam, they hate you as much as they hate Caitlyn Jenner. They hate us all because we won’t agree to their view of religion. So America, we are all in this together.”

“I don’t agree with Graham on much, but his point was sound in this,” Geller told Mediaite by email.

In fact, Geller told us: “I am liberal on social issues.”

On a somewhat related note, Geller suggested that the media dismisses her as an “extremist” at least partially because of her gender. “It must be said that [the media] are little better with my male colleagues who share my views,” she said.

“I am working in defense of freedom,” she added. “If the media thinks that is ‘extreme,’ it reflects poorly on them, not on me.”


Pamela Geller’s commitment to freedom from jihad and Shariah shines forth in her books

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